Kidmin Talk #004 - October 11, 2011


Duration: 00:45:26

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Creativity & Team Leadership

Welcome to the fourth episode of Kidmin Talk, the webcast show hosted by Karl Bastian, the Kidologist. Listen here on Kidology or subscribe via iTunes to listen on-the-go with your iPhone, iPod, iPad, or other mobile device.

SPONSOR: This episode is sponsored by The Kids Church Cookbook - Part 5: Getting Creative


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ABC's of KIDOLOGY: The Letter "C" = Creativity!

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So what does a Leadership Team DO? (Assuming that you have have formed one!)

Joan asked last week, "All our ministry leaders have agreed to form and serve as a team, now what?"

  • Meet regularly!
  • Go over each others "Ministry P's"
    • Praises
    • Problems
    • Projects/Events
    • People Needs/Issues
    • Prayer Requests
  • No longer work alone, do everything together
  • Coordinate Calendars
  • Discuss things together
  • Ask for counsel, input, advice, encouragement
  • Present ideas, and be genuinely open to input
  • Decide things as a group
  • Ask what the ministry AS A WHOLE needs/how it is doing:
    (We can get a narrow perspective when we just lead one area)
    • Ministry Name?
    • Ministry Brochure?
    • Better Signage?
    • Security Issues?
    • Follow Up?
    • Are different areas doing things consistently?
    • What is the parents experience from area to area?
    • Do a ministry-wide survey of parents/volunteers
    • Kidology Online Training

Differences between Committee and a Leadership Team

  • A committe often meets to talk and then nothing changes
  • A commitee often meets to tell the leader what to do
  • There are people on a committee that do nothing between meetings
  • A committee is boring and people often are seen nodding off
  • A Leadership Team meets and everyone accepts assignments!
  • A Leadership Team is made up of leaders of areas of ministry!
  • A Leadership Team dispurses to go do the work of the ministry!
  • A Leadership Team meeting is full of laughter and fellowship and exciting because everyone no longer feels alone in their area of ministry but like they have help and backup and people to call when the going gets tough! Its no longer boxing, but a football team!

Thoughts on the passing of Steve Jobs

I've long said, there are three types of people in the world:

  1. Those who make things happen
  2. Those who watch things happen
  3. Those who say, "What just happened?"

Steve Jobs was one of those who MADE things happen, and equipped others to make things happen too - which was why he was my hero. He enabled me to create. A lot of people spend their time talking about what others are doing, I prefer to DO. A lot of people spend their time talking about what others are writing, I prefer to WRITE. A lot of people spend their time talking about where others are going, I prefer to GO. A lot of people spend their time talking about what other people are creating, I prefer to CREATE.

Steve Jobs was the man who taught me this. When IBM said "Think" - he said "Think Different." He didn't listen to conventional wisdom, he listened to his inner voice and went against the grain and did what his instincts told him. Often it led to mistakes. But he never let his mistakes stop him from pushing forward toward his dreams. He had a vision of what people needed and he was relentless in giving people what he knew they needed. (and wanted, whether they realized it yet or not!)

That is why I created in 1994 - I had a vision of what children's workers needed long before most were even using the Internet. I hope that someday when I am gone, I too can be remembered like Steve Jobs, as someone who never gave up, pressed on after mistakes, and pushed against the grain to give my customers what they need to succeed in their ministries.

While I have nowhere near his genius, I hope I have his tenacity to keep at it to the end.

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