Kidmin Talk #057 - July 27, 2013


Duration: 00:36:34

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Vision, Training, Writing & Other Kidmin Questions

Welcome to the fifty-seventh episode of Kidmin Talk, the webcast show hosted by Karl Bastian, the Kidologist. Listen here on Kidology or subscribe via iTunes to listen on-the-go with your iPhone, iPod, iPad, or other mobile device.

SPONSOR: This episode is sponsored by THE KIDOLOGY WAY: The Four Pillars of Children's Ministry




Robert asked about what important things to train teen helpers in kidmin.

  • Ownership / Input
  • Create an Identity
  • Give Responcibilities
  • Teach Relational Skills
  • Train Safety and Security Guidelines
  • Keep Training Ongoing
  • Make it FUN!

Joan asked about the difference between a philosophy of ministry and ministry vision.

  • Philosophy of Ministry is what you believe and why you do ministry the way you do.
  • You already have a philosophy of ministry, it already guides you, you need to define it.
  • Once defined, communicate it.
  • Philosophy of Ministry rarely changes
  • Vision answers, "What will it look like when I'm done?"
  • Vision changes ministry to ministry, and year to year.
  • When a vision is fulfilled, you need a new ministry.

Steve asked for some tips on being a better camp speaker.

  • Thematic games with a point
  • Great story telling, but also personal stories unique to you.
  • Be relational off the stage
  • Have something uniquely you (I sling shot jolly ranchers!)

Rhoda asked how to provide an inclusive atmospher for kids with special needs.

  • Short answer? Include them.
  • Recruite "Friends" to provide one on one care and attention.
  • Talk to parents to learn their needs and gain insights for success.

Glen asked about my strategy for creating kidmin content.

  • Start with high level goals of what you want to accomplish.
  • Create long term scope and sequence.
  • Each lesson has a Big Idea
  • HOOK, BOOK, LOOK, TOOK and (Karl's addition) COOK
    • HOOK: Creates curiosity for the topic
    • BOOK: What does the Bible have to say about it?
    • LOOK: Explain and explore the meaning of the passage
    • TOOK: A practical application to real life
    • COOK: A opportunity to do something with the topic hands on.

"Bob" the senior pastor asked about the importance of "Big Church" attendance.

  • Yes, "Big Church" is important!
  • A shepherds can ask a volunteer about church attendance.
  • Don't be legalistic, but set high expectations.
  • Have defined volunteer job descriptions and expectations.
  • Start with questions, rather than accusations.
  • Provide opportunities for volunteers to get a break.
  • Pastor and kidmin leadership must work together on strategies for the needs of the whole person when it comes to volunteers.

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