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Poll Question: Did You or Do You Plan to Go to Seminary?
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Posted: 23 March 2010 at 6:14am | IP Logged Quote Kidologist

Check out my blog post: Do You Need Seminary To Succeed? and post your thoughts and comments here.
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Posted: 23 March 2010 at 10:25am | IP Logged Quote KennyA

I see myself as a lifelong learner. We should never stop learning and growing. Personally, I just completed a bachelors degree and will persue a Masters degree when it makes sense financially to do so. (I other words, when I have widdled my student loan debt down to the point that I can afford it.)

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Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:28am | IP Logged Quote wbman

I have my bachelors in Biblical studies and am now pursuing my MAR from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary, I'm doing this for my own growth, so I can handle the Word even better.
I also have a certificate from Child Evangelism Fellowship's Children's Ministry Institute. This program is also great for someone wanting to improve their ministry skills!! CMI is now online as well.

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Posted: 23 March 2010 at 12:32pm | IP Logged Quote sgphillips

I second the thoughts from KennyA, we should all be life-long learners.

I have always desired to complete my Bachelors and have been interupted many times.  Being Bi-vocational in the ministry (having the job at the church and outside the church to cover everything) and a wife with disability, a daughter with medical concerns, a son at home with his child (my grandson) and trying to balance everything, my personal education and interests always take a back seat to everything else.

I have taken classes with CMUO (still do when I can find the time & money), Local Bible Schools, Liberty University Correspondence program, and various others classes but have yet to complete everything. 

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Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:01pm | IP Logged Quote Marci J

GREAT post!  I would agree with most of what Karl addressed in the blog post.  While education is not a requirement for success, it can certainly be beneficial - professionally, personally and spiritually. 

I am nearing completion of my MA in Children's and Family Ministries through Bethel Seminary.  (I voted MA/Ministry above because I'm just 80 days from grad - but who's counting?)  This program has grown me in so many ways!  I have gained not only knowledge, but confidence.  I have learned so much about myself and who God has wired me to be.  I've met others in ministry who can relate to the joys/challenges that I experience and are now lifelong friends.  I've been given "tools" and skills to look at scripture with new eyes.  My calling has been affirmed.  I could go on and on... it's been an all around great experience for me.

Where Karl mentioned seeing a disconnect between seminary and practical ministry, that has not been my experience at Bethel.  The program is specifically designed for people just like me - those in ministry.  In nearly every class I have found aspects that I could use in my setting - if not with the kids, with the parents/volunteers or myself.

Bethel's degree program is a hybrid model, primarily distance, with 4 weeks/year spent on campus (2 weeks Fall/2 weeks Spring).  My church has been VERY supportive in allowing me to be gone for those weeks of intensives.  I have to say, though, that I couldn't do any of it without the support of my family as well.

I prayed about it and had conversations with my husband for two years before we felt like the time was right.  Each person is different in their journey.  If you feel that nudge from God - and your church and family are supportive - I'd say go for it!  It will change your life and your ministry!

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Posted: 23 March 2010 at 4:25pm | IP Logged Quote Kidjoni

I have a BA in Business and a seminary degree , Masters in Educational Leadership--for me, seminary was a requirement to be considered for a staff position.  My church has a lot of highly educated people. Having a "professional degree" seems to qualify me in their eyes.  It's not the only thing, but it does open doors and help estabilish credibility. 

In all the classes I'd taken, I've never found one class that was irrelevant or totally disconnected from ministry.  My language classes prepared me to be a better studier.  My theory classes gave me a foundation from which to build upon.  Seminary for me gave me the foundation to build upon and God used my seminary years to build my character and refine me.  It also demonstrates commitment to learning and perseverence.

I think you put it very well in the blog.

 

 



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Posted: 23 March 2010 at 6:17pm | IP Logged Quote Kidologist

Great comments, there are some good comments over on my blog too.
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Marci J wrote:

GREAT post!  I would agree with most of what Karl addressed in the blog post.  While education is not a requirement for success, it can certainly be beneficial - professionally, personally and spiritually. 

I am nearing completion of my MA in Children's and Family Ministries through Bethel Seminary.  (I voted MA/Ministry above because I'm just 80 days from grad - but who's counting?)  This program has grown me in so many ways!  I have gained not only knowledge, but confidence.  I have learned so much about myself and who God has wired me to be.  I've met others in ministry who can relate to the joys/challenges that I experience and are now lifelong friends.  I've been given "tools" and skills to look at scripture with new eyes.  My calling has been affirmed.  I could go on and on... it's been an all around great experience for me.

Where Karl mentioned seeing a disconnect between seminary and practical ministry, that has not been my experience at Bethel.  The program is specifically designed for people just like me - those in ministry.  In nearly every class I have found aspects that I could use in my setting - if not with the kids, with the parents/volunteers or myself.

Bethel's degree program is a hybrid model, primarily distance, with 4 weeks/year spent on campus (2 weeks Fall/2 weeks Spring).  My church has been VERY supportive in allowing me to be gone for those weeks of intensives.  I have to say, though, that I couldn't do any of it without the support of my family as well.

I prayed about it and had conversations with my husband for two years before we felt like the time was right.  Each person is different in their journey.  If you feel that nudge from God - and your church and family are supportive - I'd say go for it!  It will change your life and your ministry!

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Marci J wrote:

GREAT post!  I would agree with most of what Karl addressed in the blog post.  While education is not a requirement for success, it can certainly be beneficial - professionally, personally and spiritually. 

I am nearing completion of my MA in Children's and Family Ministries through Bethel Seminary.  (I voted MA/Ministry above because I'm just 80 days from grad - but who's counting?)  This program has grown me in so many ways!  I have gained not only knowledge, but confidence.  I have learned so much about myself and who God has wired me to be.  I've met others in ministry who can relate to the joys/challenges that I experience and are now lifelong friends.  I've been given "tools" and skills to look at scripture with new eyes.  My calling has been affirmed.  I could go on and on... it's been an all around great experience for me.

Where Karl mentioned seeing a disconnect between seminary and practical ministry, that has not been my experience at Bethel.  The program is specifically designed for people just like me - those in ministry.  In nearly every class I have found aspects that I could use in my setting - if not with the kids, with the parents/volunteers or myself.

Bethel's degree program is a hybrid model, primarily distance, with 4 weeks/year spent on campus (2 weeks Fall/2 weeks Spring).  My church has been VERY supportive in allowing me to be gone for those weeks of intensives.  I have to say, though, that I couldn't do any of it without the support of my family as well.

I prayed about it and had conversations with my husband for two years before we felt like the time was right.  Each person is different in their journey.  If you feel that nudge from God - and your church and family are supportive - I'd say go for it!  It will change your life and your ministry!

Hi Marci ... Congratulations!  I am also a Bethel Seminary student in the Children/Family Ministry track ... graduating next spring...I totally agree that the program has been invaluable in my job as children's ministry director as well as in my own person walk with God!  Yea Bethel!
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 1:26am | IP Logged Quote Glen Woods

I don't have much to add to what has already been said, other than this: What is God asking you to do regarding both preparation for ministry and lifelong learning in the context of ministry? When you discover the answer to that, then go do it.

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